Kramnik and Topalov Re-unification match - 500,000 USD Each
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Mais Topalov peut encore nous surprendre. Il a déjà ratrappé des retards assez importants lors de tournois prestigieux l'an dernier. Évidemment, ceci n'est pas un tournoi prestigieux mais un match de 12 rondes entre 2 joueurs...
Attendons tout de même avant de fermer les livres.
En tout cas, j'ai jamais vu autant de monde sur le serveur de Playchess.com. Plus de 8000 usagés en même temps à un moment donné. Et pas un mot sur le championnat dans les journeaux...
Aristée
Attendons tout de même avant de fermer les livres.
En tout cas, j'ai jamais vu autant de monde sur le serveur de Playchess.com. Plus de 8000 usagés en même temps à un moment donné. Et pas un mot sur le championnat dans les journeaux...
Aristée
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Que serais un bon match de championnat du monde sans théorie de complots russes ?
Ramassé sur le kibitzer's corner de la 2ème partie du match sur Chessgames.com:
"Sep-24-06
PeerGynt: My point was that Topalov presses his opponents and they blnder. Kramnik gets unprovoced blunders.
On one Bulgarian message board a Kramnik fan said something interesting today. He said that Kramnik played the whole game perfectly. When he was asked to comment Bxf8, he said that it was a perfect move too. Kramnik simply knew that Toplaov won't play Rxg4 and chose the best defence. For many people this sounded as a joke, but I new he was not joking and also I had the same feeling during the game.
For me Kramnik uses mental power to mess up the opponents mind. I expressed this opinion a month before this match started and now I am even more convinced about it. Kramnik is dangerous, becuase he does not use other people to do the mind tricks for him. He is the psychic himself. This makes him undetectable and virtually invincible (when needed).
Sep-24-06
azaris: <For me Kramnik uses mental power to mess up the opponents mind.>
Again with the yoghurt"
Pas possible!
En parlant de complots, ça me fait penser (je ne sais pas pourquoi!) à la biographie de Korchnoi.
Il paraitrait qu'il aurait déjà joué aux échecs contre l'esprit de Maroczy!!
Tout un numéro ce Korchnoi là.
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Ramassé sur le kibitzer's corner de la 2ème partie du match sur Chessgames.com:
"Sep-24-06
PeerGynt: My point was that Topalov presses his opponents and they blnder. Kramnik gets unprovoced blunders.
On one Bulgarian message board a Kramnik fan said something interesting today. He said that Kramnik played the whole game perfectly. When he was asked to comment Bxf8, he said that it was a perfect move too. Kramnik simply knew that Toplaov won't play Rxg4 and chose the best defence. For many people this sounded as a joke, but I new he was not joking and also I had the same feeling during the game.
For me Kramnik uses mental power to mess up the opponents mind. I expressed this opinion a month before this match started and now I am even more convinced about it. Kramnik is dangerous, becuase he does not use other people to do the mind tricks for him. He is the psychic himself. This makes him undetectable and virtually invincible (when needed).
Sep-24-06
azaris: <For me Kramnik uses mental power to mess up the opponents mind.>
Again with the yoghurt"
Pas possible!
En parlant de complots, ça me fait penser (je ne sais pas pourquoi!) à la biographie de Korchnoi.
Il paraitrait qu'il aurait déjà joué aux échecs contre l'esprit de Maroczy!!
Tout un numéro ce Korchnoi là.
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Grosso modo ça dit quoi? Ça l'air interessantRéjean Tremblay a écrit : "Sep-24-06
PeerGynt: My point was that Topalov presses his opponents and they blnder. Kramnik gets unprovoced blunders.
On one Bulgarian message board a Kramnik fan said something interesting today. He said that Kramnik played the whole game perfectly. When he was asked to comment Bxf8, he said that it was a perfect move too. Kramnik simply knew that Toplaov won't play Rxg4 and chose the best defence. For many people this sounded as a joke, but I new he was not joking and also I had the same feeling during the game.
For me Kramnik uses mental power to mess up the opponents mind. I expressed this opinion a month before this match started and now I am even more convinced about it. Kramnik is dangerous, becuase he does not use other people to do the mind tricks for him. He is the psychic himself. This makes him undetectable and virtually invincible (when needed).
Sep-24-06
azaris: <For me Kramnik uses mental power to mess up the opponents mind.>
Again with the yoghurt"
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Pour ceux qui n'ont pas vu l'analyse sur playchess, voici le pgn :
[Event "WCh"]
[Site "Elista RUS"]
[Date "2006.09.24"]
[Round "2"]
[White "Topalov, Veselin"]
[Black "Kramnik, Vladimir"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "D19"]
[WhiteElo "2813"]
[BlackElo "2743"]
[Annotator "Mihail Marin"]
[PlyCount "126"]
[EventDate "2006.09.23"]
{Another highly dramatical game. Topalov built up an iresistible king side
attack but then missed a simple win and started playing less confidently.
Kramnik's main merit consists of finding ways to face his opponent with
difficult psychological problems. The score is 2-0 now for Kramnik, but given
the elevated tension of the fight this could be of little relevance from the
point of view of the final result.} 1. d4 d5 2. c4 c6 3. Nc3 Nf6 4. Nf3 dxc4 5.
a4 Bf5 6. e3 e6 7. Bxc4 Bb4 8. O-O Nbd7 9. Qe2 Bg6 10. e4 O-O 11. Bd3 Bh5 12.
e5 Nd5 13. Nxd5 cxd5 14. Qe3 {This can be considered a classical line already.
Black has a solid position, but White's advantage of space offers him chances
for a king side attack, be it of strategic or tactical nature. Recently,
Black's earlier deviations such as 9...Bg4, 9...Ne4 and 11...h6 have become
increasingly popular. Actually, 9...Ne4 can hardly be called a new move; it
has just been well forgotten for a long while, but it was employed during the
Alekhine-Euwe matches. Kramnik himself faced 9...Bg4 against Bacrot in the
Olympiad and failed to prove a convincing antidote.} Bg6 15. Ng5 Re8 16. f4
Bxd3 17. Qxd3 f5 {Starting with this moment, I expected that Topalov would
sacrifice the knight on e6 in a way or another, but his plan looks more
logical. By gradually concentrating all his forces on the king side, he will
create very dangerous threats.#} 18. Be3 Nf8 19. Kh1 Rc8 20. g4 Qd7 21. Rg1 Be7
22. Nf3 {My shattered ilusions about a possible Nxe6 were compensated by the
spectacular sequence starting with the 28th move.} Rc4 23. Rg2 fxg4 24. Rxg4
Rxa4 25. Rag1 g6 26. h4 {Without calculating too much, is it easy to unerstand
that Black's position cannot resist for too long.} Rb4 27. h5 Qb5 {#} 28. Qc2
$3 ({The only way to keep the attack going.} 28. hxg6 $2 {
was premature because after} Qxd3 29. gxh7+ Kxh7 30. Rg7+ Kh6 31. f5+ {
the bishop is hanging.}) 28... Rxb2 29. hxg6 $1 {But now, the previous
variation leads to mate, so Black has to keep the g-file closed, at least for
a while.} h5 30. g7 $1 hxg4 31. gxf8=Q+ {#} Bxf8 $2 ({Both players started
missing things by this moment. This is easy to spot when assisted by Fritz,
but in conditions of over-the-board play things are different. About the
yesterday's game it has been said that 57...f5 was a terrible blunder and that
57...Nxf2 would have drawn easily. I do not feel that this is really so
obvious without an engine by one's side. Anyway, I suppose that Kramnik
considered the line} 31... Kxf8 32. Qg6 Qe2 33. Qxg4 {as completely hopeless
for him, which may be true in principle, but Black could prolongue the fight
with} Bg5 $5 {when White has to insert} 34. Re1 {before he captures the bishop.
The move played in the game should have led to an abrupt end.}) 32. Qg6+ $2 ({
Both players must have had their eyes focused on the king side, which made
them overlookthatafter} 32. Rxg4+ Bg7 {
White can attack the g7-bishop from the other side with} 33. Qc7 {preventing ..
.Re7 (which could follow after 33.Qg6) and leaving Black with the possibility
of giving just one last check with} Qf1+ {when} 34. Ng1 {ends the day.
Although Topalov's move does not let the win slip away yet, it surely marks
the start of his gradual decline, after a brilliantly conducted first part of
the game. This seems to be a hidden weakness of the FIDE World Champion.
Sometimes, if the opponent gets some symbolic counterplay in a basically lost
position, Topalov starts becoming less confident. (To a certain extent, this
was also typical for Fischer, with whom Topalov has been frequently been
compared for his uncompromising style). In Topalov-Leko Linares 2005 and
Topalov-Anand San Luis 2005 he just missed relatively simple wins but in
Aronian-Topalov Morelia 2006 he even came close to losing at a certain moment.
This game continues this unfortunate tendency: he will eventually lose the
full point...}) 32... Bg7 33. f5 Re7 34. f6 Qe2 35. Qxg4 Rf7 {#} 36. Rc1 ({
Computers suggest} 36. Qh5 {as stronger and they might be just right, but this
is pretty hard to spot during the game by a mere mortal, be him a World
Champion. Topalov's choice is perfectly understandable, humanly speaking.})
36... Rc2 37. Rxc2 Qd1+ 38. Kg2 Qxc2+ 39. Kg3 Qe4 {A culminating moment. Black
desperately tries to simplify the position, even if this would imply making
some positional or material concessions on the king side since his apparently
inoffensive queen side pawns will be a terrible weapon in the ending. White
faces now a very difficult choice right before the control.#} 40. Bf4 ({
It will require a lot of analytical effort to prove which exactly is the move
that turns a better (or winning) position into a worse (or losing) one, but I
feel we are quite close to it by now. (please do read CBM 115 for further
details).} 40. Qxe4 dxe4 41. Ng5 {would have lead to relatively similar
positions as in the game, with the difference that White could put his pawns
into motion more quickly. For instance} Bf8 ({White should win after} 41...
Bxf6 42. Nxf7 Kxf7 43. exf6 Kxf6 44. Kf4 {
although some elementary technique is still needed.}) 42. Nxe6 a5 43. Ng5 Bh6 (
{The pawn race favours White after} 43... a4 44. Nxf7 Kxf7 45. d5 a3 46. Bd4 {
followed by e6+}) 44. d5 {when the white pawns look pretty awesome.}) 40... Qf5
41. Qxf5 exf5 42. Bg5 ({Topalov likes to do things in systematic way, approach
with the king, maintain the chain of pawns intact, and so on, but there is
simply not enough time for it! There are two enemy passed pawns on the other
wing! Capturing the bishop or} 42. Ng5 {would have been better.}) 42... a5 43.
Kf4 a4 44. Kxf5 a3 45. Bc1 Bf8 46. e6 Rc7 47. Bxa3 Bxa3 48. Ke5 Rc1 49. Ng5 Rf1
({Allwoing the transposition to a problematic ending.} 49... Rg1 $5 {
would have probably been simpler.}) 50. e7 Re1+ 51. Kxd5 Bxe7 52. fxe7 Rxe7 53.
Kd6 {Humanly speaking, this position should be a draw. White's forces are
perfectly coordinated and the elimination of the b-pawn should not be a
problem. Tablebases seem to have a different opinion.#} Re1 ({
It will take me some time to understand why} 53... Re3 {
is here the only winning move.}) 54. d5 Kf8 55. Ne6+ ({But now,} 55. Kd7 {
looks better for human standards and it is the only saving move according to
the tablebases, too. So, humans and computers can have common views sometimes.}
) 55... Ke8 56. Nc7+ Kd8 57. Ne6+ Kc8 {It's all over now.} 58. Ke7 Rh1 59. Ng5
b5 60. d6 Rd1 61. Ne6 b4 62. Nc5 Re1+ 63. Kf6 Re3 0-1
[Event "WCh"]
[Site "Elista RUS"]
[Date "2006.09.24"]
[Round "2"]
[White "Topalov, Veselin"]
[Black "Kramnik, Vladimir"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "D19"]
[WhiteElo "2813"]
[BlackElo "2743"]
[Annotator "Mihail Marin"]
[PlyCount "126"]
[EventDate "2006.09.23"]
{Another highly dramatical game. Topalov built up an iresistible king side
attack but then missed a simple win and started playing less confidently.
Kramnik's main merit consists of finding ways to face his opponent with
difficult psychological problems. The score is 2-0 now for Kramnik, but given
the elevated tension of the fight this could be of little relevance from the
point of view of the final result.} 1. d4 d5 2. c4 c6 3. Nc3 Nf6 4. Nf3 dxc4 5.
a4 Bf5 6. e3 e6 7. Bxc4 Bb4 8. O-O Nbd7 9. Qe2 Bg6 10. e4 O-O 11. Bd3 Bh5 12.
e5 Nd5 13. Nxd5 cxd5 14. Qe3 {This can be considered a classical line already.
Black has a solid position, but White's advantage of space offers him chances
for a king side attack, be it of strategic or tactical nature. Recently,
Black's earlier deviations such as 9...Bg4, 9...Ne4 and 11...h6 have become
increasingly popular. Actually, 9...Ne4 can hardly be called a new move; it
has just been well forgotten for a long while, but it was employed during the
Alekhine-Euwe matches. Kramnik himself faced 9...Bg4 against Bacrot in the
Olympiad and failed to prove a convincing antidote.} Bg6 15. Ng5 Re8 16. f4
Bxd3 17. Qxd3 f5 {Starting with this moment, I expected that Topalov would
sacrifice the knight on e6 in a way or another, but his plan looks more
logical. By gradually concentrating all his forces on the king side, he will
create very dangerous threats.#} 18. Be3 Nf8 19. Kh1 Rc8 20. g4 Qd7 21. Rg1 Be7
22. Nf3 {My shattered ilusions about a possible Nxe6 were compensated by the
spectacular sequence starting with the 28th move.} Rc4 23. Rg2 fxg4 24. Rxg4
Rxa4 25. Rag1 g6 26. h4 {Without calculating too much, is it easy to unerstand
that Black's position cannot resist for too long.} Rb4 27. h5 Qb5 {#} 28. Qc2
$3 ({The only way to keep the attack going.} 28. hxg6 $2 {
was premature because after} Qxd3 29. gxh7+ Kxh7 30. Rg7+ Kh6 31. f5+ {
the bishop is hanging.}) 28... Rxb2 29. hxg6 $1 {But now, the previous
variation leads to mate, so Black has to keep the g-file closed, at least for
a while.} h5 30. g7 $1 hxg4 31. gxf8=Q+ {#} Bxf8 $2 ({Both players started
missing things by this moment. This is easy to spot when assisted by Fritz,
but in conditions of over-the-board play things are different. About the
yesterday's game it has been said that 57...f5 was a terrible blunder and that
57...Nxf2 would have drawn easily. I do not feel that this is really so
obvious without an engine by one's side. Anyway, I suppose that Kramnik
considered the line} 31... Kxf8 32. Qg6 Qe2 33. Qxg4 {as completely hopeless
for him, which may be true in principle, but Black could prolongue the fight
with} Bg5 $5 {when White has to insert} 34. Re1 {before he captures the bishop.
The move played in the game should have led to an abrupt end.}) 32. Qg6+ $2 ({
Both players must have had their eyes focused on the king side, which made
them overlookthatafter} 32. Rxg4+ Bg7 {
White can attack the g7-bishop from the other side with} 33. Qc7 {preventing ..
.Re7 (which could follow after 33.Qg6) and leaving Black with the possibility
of giving just one last check with} Qf1+ {when} 34. Ng1 {ends the day.
Although Topalov's move does not let the win slip away yet, it surely marks
the start of his gradual decline, after a brilliantly conducted first part of
the game. This seems to be a hidden weakness of the FIDE World Champion.
Sometimes, if the opponent gets some symbolic counterplay in a basically lost
position, Topalov starts becoming less confident. (To a certain extent, this
was also typical for Fischer, with whom Topalov has been frequently been
compared for his uncompromising style). In Topalov-Leko Linares 2005 and
Topalov-Anand San Luis 2005 he just missed relatively simple wins but in
Aronian-Topalov Morelia 2006 he even came close to losing at a certain moment.
This game continues this unfortunate tendency: he will eventually lose the
full point...}) 32... Bg7 33. f5 Re7 34. f6 Qe2 35. Qxg4 Rf7 {#} 36. Rc1 ({
Computers suggest} 36. Qh5 {as stronger and they might be just right, but this
is pretty hard to spot during the game by a mere mortal, be him a World
Champion. Topalov's choice is perfectly understandable, humanly speaking.})
36... Rc2 37. Rxc2 Qd1+ 38. Kg2 Qxc2+ 39. Kg3 Qe4 {A culminating moment. Black
desperately tries to simplify the position, even if this would imply making
some positional or material concessions on the king side since his apparently
inoffensive queen side pawns will be a terrible weapon in the ending. White
faces now a very difficult choice right before the control.#} 40. Bf4 ({
It will require a lot of analytical effort to prove which exactly is the move
that turns a better (or winning) position into a worse (or losing) one, but I
feel we are quite close to it by now. (please do read CBM 115 for further
details).} 40. Qxe4 dxe4 41. Ng5 {would have lead to relatively similar
positions as in the game, with the difference that White could put his pawns
into motion more quickly. For instance} Bf8 ({White should win after} 41...
Bxf6 42. Nxf7 Kxf7 43. exf6 Kxf6 44. Kf4 {
although some elementary technique is still needed.}) 42. Nxe6 a5 43. Ng5 Bh6 (
{The pawn race favours White after} 43... a4 44. Nxf7 Kxf7 45. d5 a3 46. Bd4 {
followed by e6+}) 44. d5 {when the white pawns look pretty awesome.}) 40... Qf5
41. Qxf5 exf5 42. Bg5 ({Topalov likes to do things in systematic way, approach
with the king, maintain the chain of pawns intact, and so on, but there is
simply not enough time for it! There are two enemy passed pawns on the other
wing! Capturing the bishop or} 42. Ng5 {would have been better.}) 42... a5 43.
Kf4 a4 44. Kxf5 a3 45. Bc1 Bf8 46. e6 Rc7 47. Bxa3 Bxa3 48. Ke5 Rc1 49. Ng5 Rf1
({Allwoing the transposition to a problematic ending.} 49... Rg1 $5 {
would have probably been simpler.}) 50. e7 Re1+ 51. Kxd5 Bxe7 52. fxe7 Rxe7 53.
Kd6 {Humanly speaking, this position should be a draw. White's forces are
perfectly coordinated and the elimination of the b-pawn should not be a
problem. Tablebases seem to have a different opinion.#} Re1 ({
It will take me some time to understand why} 53... Re3 {
is here the only winning move.}) 54. d5 Kf8 55. Ne6+ ({But now,} 55. Kd7 {
looks better for human standards and it is the only saving move according to
the tablebases, too. So, humans and computers can have common views sometimes.}
) 55... Ke8 56. Nc7+ Kd8 57. Ne6+ Kc8 {It's all over now.} 58. Ke7 Rh1 59. Ng5
b5 60. d6 Rd1 61. Ne6 b4 62. Nc5 Re1+ 63. Kf6 Re3 0-1
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When Kramnik was asked to comment Bxf8, he said that it was a perfect move too.
Il nous prend pour des cons?
Il nous prend pour des cons?
Luc "dommage collatéral négligeable" Fortin
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Topalov a arrêté l'hémorragie avec une nulle avec les Noirs. [Event "WCC Match 2006"] [Site "0:00.28-0:18.50"] [Date "2006.09.26"] [Round "03"] [White "Kramnik, Vladimir"] [Black "Topalov, Veselin"] [Result "1/2-1/2"] [WhiteElo "2743"] [WhiteCountry "RUS"] [BlackElo "2813"] [BlackCountry "BUL"] [Remark "WCC Match 2006"] [PresId "live"]
1/2-1/2
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[Event "WCh"]
[Site "Elista RUS"]
[Date "2006.09.27"]
[Round "4"]
[White "Topalov, Veselin"]
[Black "Kramnik, Vladimir"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ECO "D47"]
[WhiteElo "2813"]
[BlackElo "2743"]
[Annotator "Robot 1"]
[PlyCount "107"]
[EventDate "2006.09.21"]
[EventType "match"]
[EventRounds "12"]
[EventCountry "RUS"]
[TimeControl "40/7200:20/3600:900+30"]
1. d4 d5 2. c4 c6 3. Nc3 Nf6 4. e3 e6 5. Nf3 Nbd7 6. Bd3 dxc4 7. Bxc4 b5 8. Bd3
Bb7 9. a3 b4 10. Ne4 Nxe4 11. Bxe4 bxa3 12. O-O Bd6 13. b3 Nf6 14. Nd2 Qc7 15.
Bf3 Bxh2+ 16. Kh1 Bd6 17. Nc4 Be7 18. Bxa3 O-O 19. Bxe7 Qxe7 20. Ra5 Rfd8 21.
Kg1 c5 22. Rxc5 Ne4 23. Bxe4 Bxe4 24. Qg4 Bd3 25. Ra1 Rac8 26. Raa5 Rb8 27. Qd1
Be4 28. Qa1 Rb7 29. Nd2 Bg6 30. Qc3 h6 31. Ra6 Kh7 32. Nc4 Be4 33. f3 Bd5 34.
Nd2 Rdb8 35. Qd3+ f5 36. Rc3 Qh4 37. Ra1 Qg3 38. Qc2 Rf7 39. Rf1 Qg6 40. Qd3
Qg3 41. Rfc1 Rfb7 42. Qc2 Qg5 43. Ra1 Qf6 44. Qd3 Rd7 45. Ra4 Rbd8 46. Rc5 Kg8
47. Nc4 Bxc4 48. Raxc4 f4 49. Rc6 fxe3 50. Qxe3 Rxd4 51. Rxe6 Qh4 52. Rxd4 Qxd4
53. Re8+ Kh7 54. Qxd4 1/2-1/2
prochaine partie vendredi, demain c'est une journée de repos.
[Site "Elista RUS"]
[Date "2006.09.27"]
[Round "4"]
[White "Topalov, Veselin"]
[Black "Kramnik, Vladimir"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ECO "D47"]
[WhiteElo "2813"]
[BlackElo "2743"]
[Annotator "Robot 1"]
[PlyCount "107"]
[EventDate "2006.09.21"]
[EventType "match"]
[EventRounds "12"]
[EventCountry "RUS"]
[TimeControl "40/7200:20/3600:900+30"]
1. d4 d5 2. c4 c6 3. Nc3 Nf6 4. e3 e6 5. Nf3 Nbd7 6. Bd3 dxc4 7. Bxc4 b5 8. Bd3
Bb7 9. a3 b4 10. Ne4 Nxe4 11. Bxe4 bxa3 12. O-O Bd6 13. b3 Nf6 14. Nd2 Qc7 15.
Bf3 Bxh2+ 16. Kh1 Bd6 17. Nc4 Be7 18. Bxa3 O-O 19. Bxe7 Qxe7 20. Ra5 Rfd8 21.
Kg1 c5 22. Rxc5 Ne4 23. Bxe4 Bxe4 24. Qg4 Bd3 25. Ra1 Rac8 26. Raa5 Rb8 27. Qd1
Be4 28. Qa1 Rb7 29. Nd2 Bg6 30. Qc3 h6 31. Ra6 Kh7 32. Nc4 Be4 33. f3 Bd5 34.
Nd2 Rdb8 35. Qd3+ f5 36. Rc3 Qh4 37. Ra1 Qg3 38. Qc2 Rf7 39. Rf1 Qg6 40. Qd3
Qg3 41. Rfc1 Rfb7 42. Qc2 Qg5 43. Ra1 Qf6 44. Qd3 Rd7 45. Ra4 Rbd8 46. Rc5 Kg8
47. Nc4 Bxc4 48. Raxc4 f4 49. Rc6 fxe3 50. Qxe3 Rxd4 51. Rxe6 Qh4 52. Rxd4 Qxd4
53. Re8+ Kh7 54. Qxd4 1/2-1/2
prochaine partie vendredi, demain c'est une journée de repos.
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Voici le PGN. Partie Nulle. [Event "WCC Match 2006"]
[Site "0:33.54-0:28.43"]
[Date "2006.09.27"]
[Round "04"]
[White "Topalov, Veselin"]
[Black "Kramnik, Vladimir"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[WhiteElo "2813"]
[WhiteCountry "BUL"]
[BlackElo "2743"]
[BlackCountry "RUS"]
[Remark "WCC Match 2006"]
[PresId "live"]
[Site "0:33.54-0:28.43"]
[Date "2006.09.27"]
[Round "04"]
[White "Topalov, Veselin"]
[Black "Kramnik, Vladimir"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[WhiteElo "2813"]
[WhiteCountry "BUL"]
[BlackElo "2743"]
[BlackCountry "RUS"]
[Remark "WCC Match 2006"]
[PresId "live"]
Kolya
- Nicolas Fillion
- Maître

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Desole pour la repetition!
Je crois qu'on faisait notre message en meme temps...
Apres 4 parties, Kramnik 3-1 Topalov.
Le score n'est pas tres bon pour Topalov, mais je reste confiant. Apres tout, on ne saurait prendre pour Kramnik quand on a un joueur comme Topalov de l'autre cote de l'echiquier! Topalov a joue de bonnes parties, avec des avantages dans chacunes. C'est juste que le poisson lui a glisse des mains.
Il reste 8 parties. Bien que ca me surprendrait que ca termine 9-3 pour Topalov, il est certain que dans chaque partie il jouera pour le gain, et se battera pour le point au complet... D'un autre cote, Kramnik se "battra" pour 8 demi-points. Voyons voir s'il vaut mieux jouer pour le gain, comme dans l'temps!
Apres 4 parties, Kramnik 3-1 Topalov.
Le score n'est pas tres bon pour Topalov, mais je reste confiant. Apres tout, on ne saurait prendre pour Kramnik quand on a un joueur comme Topalov de l'autre cote de l'echiquier! Topalov a joue de bonnes parties, avec des avantages dans chacunes. C'est juste que le poisson lui a glisse des mains.
Il reste 8 parties. Bien que ca me surprendrait que ca termine 9-3 pour Topalov, il est certain que dans chaque partie il jouera pour le gain, et se battera pour le point au complet... D'un autre cote, Kramnik se "battra" pour 8 demi-points. Voyons voir s'il vaut mieux jouer pour le gain, comme dans l'temps!
Kolya
- Nicolas Fillion
- Maître

- Messages : 2159
- Enregistré le : dim. sept. 15, 2002 10:07 pm
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Plutot, on remarque que Topalov a eu l'avantage dans toutes les parties, sans exception aucune, et qu'il a consequemment joue pour le gain dans chaque partie avec des risques limites. Cependant, meme avec une grosse position, meme pour le meilleur joueur du monde, les blunders sont possibles.on remarque que Topalov est comme un enfant dans le match, sans expérience...
Kolya
- benoitstpierre
- Expert

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